There are lots of similarities between these 2 personality disorders – but there are also some key differences. Today I discuss them in this video.
Transcript:
hi my lovelies today I am doing oh my
god I'm gonna yawn extract sorry I'm
with you now right today I'm going to do
a video request
Aleksandra hi Alexander I was just about
to do this video actually and I got
talking about my brother and explaining
what was going on there so now I'm just
going to make this a separate video in
that last video I'm gonna put them both
out today actually I forgot to mention
my brother has his own website because
he thought it'd be good he can teach
people about ataxia which is what he has
and also show off his photos because he
is into photography and the website is
www.pevs.com and say yeah leave that
little shout out there right so today
I'm going to talk about antisocial
personality disorder I did my flip chart
the other day where I kind of gave you a
little bit bit of info about all 10
personality disorders but now I'm going
to focus on the cluster B's verse
borderline and today it's antisocial so
right antisocial personality disorder
verse borderline personality disorder at
at first glance there are a lot of
similarities
someone with both can be impulsive
reckless they can break the law with
most personality disorders they can
become morbid with other mental health
issues or substance misuse and substance
misuse comes up a lot with antisocial
and it also comes up a lot with
borderline or attempting suicide and I
never knew that I knew obviously with
borderlines at
suicide is quite common but I never
realized that antisocial is as well with
both personality disorders we often
unemployed we can't to hold down a job
we can't keep a relationship we are
unable to control our anger and can come
across as aggressive we can blame other
people for our problems we can both be
deceitful and the cause obviously there
is no 100% accurate answer based thought
with both disorders both genetics plays
part as does our upbringing and
childhood and it's very common in both
disorders for the person who has it to
have suffered some kind of trauma within
their childhood with antisocial disorder
you'll often find they come from either
a broken home or a home where both
parents are drug addicts or alcoholics
there was violence in the home social
services or child services are often
involved so there are the similarities
so they seem really similar but when I
now talk about the differences you'll
see actually they're really really
different and one of the main
differences is someone with borderline
personality disorder has really intense
emotions and they behave in a certain
way as almost a coping mechanism to help
them cope with the pain they're feeling
inside and by doing that they often will
do all the things I mentioned aggression
actually impulsively etc but this is a
key difference I know from definitely
speaking for myself that I would behave
in this way but I felt deep regret I
felt guilt I felt hurt I was able to
realize that my behave
was not right it might I might not have
realized it at the time I might have
been in denial and kind of late mean the
other person but I did have that feel
like feeling and I could empathize and I
did feel guilty
someone with antisocial personality
disorder lacks empathy they do not feel
guilty
they have no remorse they completely
disregard their safety and the safety of
others and so I think that is like the
key difference is that you have someone
with antisocial who just doesn't care
about someone else's feelings and
someone with borderline who actually is
just hurting so badly that they behave
in this way but they can feel guilty for
it another difference is that someone
with antisocial personality disorder
it's kind of been there since a young
age now with both disorders neither can
get diagnosed before the age of 18 I
mean the DSM says personalities
disorders shouldn't be diagnosed I know
some places do so if you're out there
and you're under 18 and you've had that
diagnosis I'm not saying you haven't
because some places do but generally
speaking they do not diagnosed before
the age of 18 and that goes in both
cases but someone with antisocial
personality disorder would have been a
really troubled child getting into a lot
of trouble missing school hurting
animals hurting other children breaking
the law from a young age and obviously
like I said they can't be diagnosed with
um normal life antisocial personality
disorder so what they get diagnosed with
is something called conduct disorder
so as a child and as a team they will
have the diagnosis of conduct disorder
and if a child grows up and has been
diagnosed with conduct disorder pretty
much all the time they go on and they
get diagnosed with antisocial
personality disorder
now people with borderline a lot people
that I have spoken to haven't
necessarily seen the signs until they're
into their teens and then they kind of
come up for me there were signs there
well before but I think they were much
more subtle then say people with
antisocial who had conduct disorder that
is there's no denying they can there's
no denying there's something wrong there
with both personality disorders they're
kind of on a spectrum as well so you can
get someone that's really high up from
escaped spectrum and someone who has
kind of mild traits say of the disorder
and what I never knew I actually wrote
it down somewhere right yeah all
personality disorders were on a spectrum
ranging in severity psychopaths are
considered to have a severe form of
antisocial personality disorder so this
got me interested I was okay and I
learned that the term
psychopathy which then later changed to
sociopaths it's not in the DSM and the
closest to psychopath or sociopath is
antisocial personality disorder which I
thought was really interesting because I
had no idea completely forgot where I
was coming I do this all the time I've
got so much information in my little
brain
so yeah I've talked about trauma I am
going to be doing videos on the brain
because I'm really fascinated about the
brain at the moon
I'm reading like I've got three books
that I'm reading and I read a chapter of
each one and then chapter 2 of each one
I'm trying to get as much information
because we know personalities start
developing in childhood and they kind of
go on through your teens up to your
early 20s and then pretty much what
personality you have is the one you will
have for life
so it makes sense that if someone has
had not former in their early life that
their brain is going to wire up in a
different way to someone who hasn't had
trauma and through the blacksheep
project that I'm working with we very
much agree that borderline disorder is a
brain disorder and I think that is
pretty much the case with all the
personality disorders and so I'm gonna
go into a bit more detail with that but
I want to make sure all the information
I have his accurate I don't want to just
video out there that's full of old
rubbish oh that's what I was going to
talk to you about
so as I mentioned to get diagnosed with
antisocial I have written it down okay
so I've explained before that someone
has to be over 18 the dying person who's
getting diagnosed with antisocial must
have a previous diagnosis of conduct
disorder and they have had a history of
conduct disorder before the age of 15
and also the their trades can't be part
of a manic episode or like a
schizophrenic episode the things they do
have to kind of be on day to day this is
their personality it's not they've just
had this episode and they're like that
it's continuous they're like this all
the time
they have to kind of take three of these
bottom boxes and it is repeatedly
breaking the law repeatedly being
deceitful being impulsive or incapable
of planning ahead being irritable and
aggressive having a reckless regard for
their safety or the safety of others
being consistently irresponsible and
lack of remorse so to get diagnosed that
have to take at least three of those but
also be over 18 also it's not part of a
manic episode and also they have a
history of conduct disorder to get
diagnosed so just reading those things
like being deceitful impulsive not able
to plan ahead irritable aggressive
reckless regard for their safety
consistently irresponsible that sounds
like some only borderline doesn't it but
then I suppose to get diagnosed we don't
if you've got order line you haven't had
that history of conduct disorder and
also I think like a remorse that's
something that people with borderline
don't suffer with I know there are
people out there that really don't like
people with borderline for whatever
reason they've obviously been really
hurt they've had a really negative
experience and because of that they kind
of view or borderlines the same and I
know we can hurt people so badly that
they that must think we have no empathy
we cannot feel because we are just
cold-hearted but that isn't the case at
all because I always felt guilty in fact
sometimes I could feel so guilty that I
returned that hatred and that anger on
myself so it's not like that guilt and
that remorse wasn't there but I couldn't
control my behavior but like I said
earlier as well I think that's true to
our extreme intense emotions the fact
that we have such a bad self-image with
borderline we can often have very
paranoid intrusive thought
and it's kind of all these things
combined that make us find our own
coping mechanisms and our way to cope is
to behave in a really negative way that
actually eventually causes us even more
pain and brings us to a place where we
don't want to be I'm given leave that
there today my lovelies I will be back
and what day Friday oh oh no it's fine
is it Friday today fine it's a I'm
thinking it's Monday here of course this
Friday's I'll be back on Monday and I
will possibly be doing history on it
first borderline or narcissistic
borderline but I hope you have a
wonderful weekend again I apologize I
didn't get video out Monday to are going
out today one about my brother and it's
one of our antisocial but have a
wonderful weekend and I love you all
late
[Music]
god I'm gonna yawn extract sorry I'm
with you now right today I'm going to do
a video request
Aleksandra hi Alexander I was just about
to do this video actually and I got
talking about my brother and explaining
what was going on there so now I'm just
going to make this a separate video in
that last video I'm gonna put them both
out today actually I forgot to mention
my brother has his own website because
he thought it'd be good he can teach
people about ataxia which is what he has
and also show off his photos because he
is into photography and the website is
www.pevs.com and say yeah leave that
little shout out there right so today
I'm going to talk about antisocial
personality disorder I did my flip chart
the other day where I kind of gave you a
little bit bit of info about all 10
personality disorders but now I'm going
to focus on the cluster B's verse
borderline and today it's antisocial so
right antisocial personality disorder
verse borderline personality disorder at
at first glance there are a lot of
similarities
someone with both can be impulsive
reckless they can break the law with
most personality disorders they can
become morbid with other mental health
issues or substance misuse and substance
misuse comes up a lot with antisocial
and it also comes up a lot with
borderline or attempting suicide and I
never knew that I knew obviously with
borderlines at
suicide is quite common but I never
realized that antisocial is as well with
both personality disorders we often
unemployed we can't to hold down a job
we can't keep a relationship we are
unable to control our anger and can come
across as aggressive we can blame other
people for our problems we can both be
deceitful and the cause obviously there
is no 100% accurate answer based thought
with both disorders both genetics plays
part as does our upbringing and
childhood and it's very common in both
disorders for the person who has it to
have suffered some kind of trauma within
their childhood with antisocial disorder
you'll often find they come from either
a broken home or a home where both
parents are drug addicts or alcoholics
there was violence in the home social
services or child services are often
involved so there are the similarities
so they seem really similar but when I
now talk about the differences you'll
see actually they're really really
different and one of the main
differences is someone with borderline
personality disorder has really intense
emotions and they behave in a certain
way as almost a coping mechanism to help
them cope with the pain they're feeling
inside and by doing that they often will
do all the things I mentioned aggression
actually impulsively etc but this is a
key difference I know from definitely
speaking for myself that I would behave
in this way but I felt deep regret I
felt guilt I felt hurt I was able to
realize that my behave
was not right it might I might not have
realized it at the time I might have
been in denial and kind of late mean the
other person but I did have that feel
like feeling and I could empathize and I
did feel guilty
someone with antisocial personality
disorder lacks empathy they do not feel
guilty
they have no remorse they completely
disregard their safety and the safety of
others and so I think that is like the
key difference is that you have someone
with antisocial who just doesn't care
about someone else's feelings and
someone with borderline who actually is
just hurting so badly that they behave
in this way but they can feel guilty for
it another difference is that someone
with antisocial personality disorder
it's kind of been there since a young
age now with both disorders neither can
get diagnosed before the age of 18 I
mean the DSM says personalities
disorders shouldn't be diagnosed I know
some places do so if you're out there
and you're under 18 and you've had that
diagnosis I'm not saying you haven't
because some places do but generally
speaking they do not diagnosed before
the age of 18 and that goes in both
cases but someone with antisocial
personality disorder would have been a
really troubled child getting into a lot
of trouble missing school hurting
animals hurting other children breaking
the law from a young age and obviously
like I said they can't be diagnosed with
um normal life antisocial personality
disorder so what they get diagnosed with
is something called conduct disorder
so as a child and as a team they will
have the diagnosis of conduct disorder
and if a child grows up and has been
diagnosed with conduct disorder pretty
much all the time they go on and they
get diagnosed with antisocial
personality disorder
now people with borderline a lot people
that I have spoken to haven't
necessarily seen the signs until they're
into their teens and then they kind of
come up for me there were signs there
well before but I think they were much
more subtle then say people with
antisocial who had conduct disorder that
is there's no denying they can there's
no denying there's something wrong there
with both personality disorders they're
kind of on a spectrum as well so you can
get someone that's really high up from
escaped spectrum and someone who has
kind of mild traits say of the disorder
and what I never knew I actually wrote
it down somewhere right yeah all
personality disorders were on a spectrum
ranging in severity psychopaths are
considered to have a severe form of
antisocial personality disorder so this
got me interested I was okay and I
learned that the term
psychopathy which then later changed to
sociopaths it's not in the DSM and the
closest to psychopath or sociopath is
antisocial personality disorder which I
thought was really interesting because I
had no idea completely forgot where I
was coming I do this all the time I've
got so much information in my little
brain
so yeah I've talked about trauma I am
going to be doing videos on the brain
because I'm really fascinated about the
brain at the moon
I'm reading like I've got three books
that I'm reading and I read a chapter of
each one and then chapter 2 of each one
I'm trying to get as much information
because we know personalities start
developing in childhood and they kind of
go on through your teens up to your
early 20s and then pretty much what
personality you have is the one you will
have for life
so it makes sense that if someone has
had not former in their early life that
their brain is going to wire up in a
different way to someone who hasn't had
trauma and through the blacksheep
project that I'm working with we very
much agree that borderline disorder is a
brain disorder and I think that is
pretty much the case with all the
personality disorders and so I'm gonna
go into a bit more detail with that but
I want to make sure all the information
I have his accurate I don't want to just
video out there that's full of old
rubbish oh that's what I was going to
talk to you about
so as I mentioned to get diagnosed with
antisocial I have written it down okay
so I've explained before that someone
has to be over 18 the dying person who's
getting diagnosed with antisocial must
have a previous diagnosis of conduct
disorder and they have had a history of
conduct disorder before the age of 15
and also the their trades can't be part
of a manic episode or like a
schizophrenic episode the things they do
have to kind of be on day to day this is
their personality it's not they've just
had this episode and they're like that
it's continuous they're like this all
the time
they have to kind of take three of these
bottom boxes and it is repeatedly
breaking the law repeatedly being
deceitful being impulsive or incapable
of planning ahead being irritable and
aggressive having a reckless regard for
their safety or the safety of others
being consistently irresponsible and
lack of remorse so to get diagnosed that
have to take at least three of those but
also be over 18 also it's not part of a
manic episode and also they have a
history of conduct disorder to get
diagnosed so just reading those things
like being deceitful impulsive not able
to plan ahead irritable aggressive
reckless regard for their safety
consistently irresponsible that sounds
like some only borderline doesn't it but
then I suppose to get diagnosed we don't
if you've got order line you haven't had
that history of conduct disorder and
also I think like a remorse that's
something that people with borderline
don't suffer with I know there are
people out there that really don't like
people with borderline for whatever
reason they've obviously been really
hurt they've had a really negative
experience and because of that they kind
of view or borderlines the same and I
know we can hurt people so badly that
they that must think we have no empathy
we cannot feel because we are just
cold-hearted but that isn't the case at
all because I always felt guilty in fact
sometimes I could feel so guilty that I
returned that hatred and that anger on
myself so it's not like that guilt and
that remorse wasn't there but I couldn't
control my behavior but like I said
earlier as well I think that's true to
our extreme intense emotions the fact
that we have such a bad self-image with
borderline we can often have very
paranoid intrusive thought
and it's kind of all these things
combined that make us find our own
coping mechanisms and our way to cope is
to behave in a really negative way that
actually eventually causes us even more
pain and brings us to a place where we
don't want to be I'm given leave that
there today my lovelies I will be back
and what day Friday oh oh no it's fine
is it Friday today fine it's a I'm
thinking it's Monday here of course this
Friday's I'll be back on Monday and I
will possibly be doing history on it
first borderline or narcissistic
borderline but I hope you have a
wonderful weekend again I apologize I
didn't get video out Monday to are going
out today one about my brother and it's
one of our antisocial but have a
wonderful weekend and I love you all
late
[Music]